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|Rule Change ID||Submitted||From||Comment|
|7||July 5, 2021||Don|| |
1. Why have a rule if it has no teeth? (Disagreement equals replay).
|7||June 22, 2021||Marsha|| |
I agree with the wording change.
|7||June 25, 2021||Kevin|| |
|7||July 6, 2021||Terry|| |
I agree with change.
|8||June 20, 2021||Alan|| |
I agree with the idea of TW/TF resulting in the removal (or additional in some cases) of points. I would add to this that we remove the verbal warning though. You have 3 strikes and then a game or match forfeit.
|8||June 26, 2021||Bill|| |
Losing a point (or adding one point to the opponent) is a strong deterrent to bad behavior. Keep it as it is.
|11||June 7, 2021||Darla|| |
I easily explain this to people to whom I teach pickleball that the starting server of the game is *functioning* as the second server for the side, so they start with 2. No one I know struggles with this after playing for about a week. It's a fun, unique aspect to the game.
|11||June 20, 2021||Alan|| |
Introducing the word "start" into the score call cadence will only result in more confusion I feel. As a new player, the understanding that you call a 1 or a 2 to denote if they are the 1st or 2nd server after each team's score is knowledge they should learn as they first start playing.
|11||June 25, 2021||Craig|| |
o-o-Start makes sense for the reason stated
|13||July 12, 2021||Kevin|| |
Research indicates that the ball is only in contact with the paddle for 2-3 milliseconds. Humans are unable to process visual images in that time frame. The problem with the "Paddle above the wrist" rule is that it for many side arm servers it is pretty much impossible to distinguish between a barely legal serve and a barely illegal serve. It simply happens too fast. Even if you do a slow motion video of some of these servers it can be hard to distinguish with certainty.
The tradeoff here is that it is really hard to hit the ball significantly above your waist and keep the the paddle head below your waist. (Exception: Lob serve) If you try to hit the ball above your waist and your paddle head below your wrist you will end up with an awkward "chicken wing" serve.
|16||June 20, 2021||Alan|| |
Switching sides in every game would create a bigger issue with the overall time in a match. Adding and additional 2 mins in every best 2 of 3 match will add up quickly based on the number of matches there are in the bigger tournaments.
|16||June 26, 2021||Bill|| |
Changing ends too often only causes more delay in tournaments. It also creates more confusion for players to line up in their correct positions.
|18||June 24, 2021||Marsha|| |
I agree with this change. No loss or gain of points occurs when the wrong score is called. If an incorrect score is not noted before the ball is served, the rally should not be interrupted; the score should be corrected after the rally is completed.
|18||June 2, 2021||Mary|| |
I agree with the suggested rule change.
|20||July 10, 2021||Dave|| |
Disagree wholeheartedly on the top of the paddleface issue. The idea is to prevent players from serving sideways. Sidewinders are legal in baseball, not pickleball. The upward swing is what makes picklball unique and allows all people of any level to play and compete. Anything that even remotely appears to be sideways should simply be illegal. Way to close to the waist. Most recreational players cannot even return those serves. Wow, that is fun and enjoyable. Most people that get 4-5 points on serves almost always win. Wow, that really makes the game fun to play. Not. If we allow all these people to push the envelope then we might as well quit playing pickleball and go back to playing tennis. I don’t even know how you can hit a ball that is below the waist with the paddleface above the break in the wrist. Appears to defy physics. A ball below the waist is below the net and must be hit in an upward motion, no matter how imperceptible, or it will not clear the net.
|20||June 2, 2021||Mary|| |
I love the drop serve. It has enhanced my enjoyment of the game.
|20||June 3, 2021||DAVID|| |
Please keep the drop serve. I see a lot of new players using it successfully. Also, I have yet to see anyone use the drop serve to deliver any kind of "wicked" serve that is especially difficult to return. I would support a change which made the new drop serve the only allowed serve. Feel free to eliminate the traditional serve.
|20||July 3, 2021||Darla|| |
I previously submitted a drop serve rule change suggestion, but I do like this option better. With both serves, traditional and drop, require nothing other than hitting the ball below the waist and an upward arc. Those would be the only two things a ref would need to watch for; the same two things for both serves. I can only imagine this would be much easier for the ref, without changing really anything about the serves themselves. Good thoughts, this.
|20||July 6, 2021||Jim|| |
I fully support the rule 'changes' as itemized. I am the Ambassador for Port Orange, Florida. I / We have held a 'beginner's skills and drills' training session every week for more than 4 years (as practical). We have worked with more than 250 beginners over that time period. The single skill that causes the most difficulty for beginners - especially those whom have had no or minimal previous experience with hand-eye-coordination sports - is the serve. We have found that, using the 'drop serve' technique, 3 of 4 beginners are able to make 3 of 4 serves after one lesson-session, Additionally, as a 72 year old player who suddenly got a serious case of the 'yips', I have found the 'drop serve' to be a very useful technique to regain confidence and expedite the game.
In summary, by greatly increasing the percentage of serves most players can execute properly, the 'drop serve' technique makes the game more enjoyable for all players who need the alternative approach, and for those whom are playing in games with someone who 'needs' the technique to get their serves in!
|20||July 14, 2021||David|| |
Keep the drop!
It is easier for a lot of beginners.
The chainsaw serve could ruin pickleball if enough people learn to do it well enough (I can), but mandating the drop serve could easily eliminate the chainsaw serve.
Keep the drop, lose the chainsaw!
|20||June 25, 2021||Patty|| |
I am a pickleball instructor of beginner’s and offer them the opportunity to learn both serves. If they are struggling with the traditional serve, I encourage them to try the new drop serve. Almost all of them find it much easier to learn. There is also the advantage of having a different serve available if the person is mentally in a server’s slump, to do something completely different. I don’t see how it hurts to keep it! More tools in the ? toolbox! Thanks so much!
|20||June 7, 2021||Pam|| |
I totally disagree with this change. It will slow down the game and is unnecessary.
|20||June 2, 2021||Stan|| |
Saw on Facebook that you are taking feedback on the Drop Serve. Here's my view from each perspective:
Hope all goes well in Indy this weekend and look forward to seeing you in Hoover next week. Safe travels!
|20||June 26, 2021||Ed|| |
I am inclined to agree with the previous comment.
|20||July 14, 2021||Clint|| |
In my opinion the drop serve should be retained if for the following reasons:
|20||June 28, 2021||Tom|| |
Suggestion to leave drop serve BUT have it follow ALL OTHER RULES for serving ..
One of the great parts of pickleball is that the rules encourage long rally’s between the players. A key component of this is the service rules in effect prior to 2021. In essence the server was unable to dominate a point solely with their serve. Combined with the two bounce rule and the No Volley Zone rules, this makes pickleball a game of shot exchanges and shot positioning rather than of power. The 2021 provisional rule allowed a power serve to suddenly become a part of the game and threatens to create a “serve and volley” environment.
|20||July 10, 2021||Dave|| |
I don’t know the name of the dude that submitted this because it’s not listed, but he is incredibly confused. And there is no such thing as a bounce serve. The only point stated that makes any sense is to “re-establish the original rules of serving for all serves, including the drop serve.”
|20||June 25, 2021||Mark|| |
I concur with leaving the drop serve as it is now. I am a new pickle ball player and have to play against higher rated players and having several types of serves, from the drop option gives me somewhat of an edge in certain situations. Mixing up the serve, straight across, spin to the left or right keeps the other players "on their toes".
|20||June 25, 2021||Patrick|| |
My comment is regarding the rule on serving from a dropped, bounced ball.
I began playing pickleball less than a year ago, and now I play 3 or 4 times per week. My playing ability is at a 3.0 - 3.5 level. When beginning, I struggled with serving by striking the ball in the air. I tried serving by dropping the ball and letting it bounce. I learned that this type serve gives me a bit more time to strike the ball and made it substantially easier to consistently hit the service area across the net. Therefore, I think this rule is important in allowing more players to learn to play and develop their game.
However, there is another important issue that this rule addresses. The pickleball rules have three requirements that are relevant to the bounce serve. First, the player's arm must be moving in an upward arc. (Rule 4.A.3.) Second, the highest point of the paddle head must not be above the player's wrist. (Rule4.A.4) Lastly, the ball must be struck below the level of the player's waist. (Rule 4.A.5). My observation of non-tournament play is that one or more of these rules is often violated when serving from the air - usually inadvertently. However, when serving from the bounce, it is virtually impossible to violate any of these rules as the ball doesn't bounce high enough to allow any of these three rules to be violated.
If anything is changed regarding the service rule, the Committee should consider banning serving the ball out of the air and requiring that the bounce serve be mandatory.
Thank you for allowing player comment on the Rules as you consider changes for 2022.
|20||July 5, 2021||Bob|| |
Support rule change in its entirety, consolidating the 2 serves with no paddle restrictions and contact of the ball below waist should standardize the rule and eliminate controversy on paddle position.
|23||June 25, 2021||Bob|| |
I concur. The removal of let serves creates an inherrant safety issue, especially for older players.
|23||July 5, 2021||Bill|| |
From my point of view as a referee I like the rule as it is. I never had a "phantom let" before, but I feel the current rule is no problem and removes the opportunity for mischief (integrity and sportsmanship). I have refereed PPA and Regionals although not 500 matches. Note that both sides of the net play with the same net, temporary or permanent.
|23||June 7, 2021||Pam|| |
Totally agree with the suggestion.
|23||June 26, 2021||jeff|| |
Its my believe that the no let serve rule was a positive change to the game, it promotes a better flow of the game and it cancels out false net calls, there is a lot of noise about this rule change because people resist change.
|23||June 6, 2021||Tracey|| |
I agree with reinstating the service let call. I haven’t played with anyone that likes it.
|23||June 2, 2021||Mary|| |
I disagree with this suggestion. Not replaying let serves has been no big deal in our rec play.
|23||June 27, 2021||Bob|| |
I agree from a safety perspective. Proper positioning on the court makes it extremely difficult to get to a serve that clips the net and barely lands in. Since let serves are obvious I don't see the false let serve call ever. Considering the wide age range of players i think replaying let serves should be reestablished
|25||June 25, 2021||Kevin|| |
Disagree. Leave court as is.
|25||June 27, 2021||Robert|| |
I agree with this proposal 100%. As a senior, 71 yrs, I cannot physically cover the entire court to play a singles game on a doubles size court. Living in a rural area, I find it nearly impossible to find a doubles partner. Therefore the only type of tournament that I have been able to participate in are scrambles where I don't have to have my own partner. Please adopt this rule, at least in senior divisions, so I can play in more tournaments
|25||June 2, 2021||Mary|| |
I agree with having a smaller court for singles.
|25||July 5, 2021||Bill|| |
I disagree that without changing the lines for a singles game the growth of pickleball will be impeded. I'm 78 and sometimes play singles, but more often "skinny" singles that requires focus and more accuracy.
|26||June 26, 2021||Bill|| |
With the exception of medically necessary hearing aids, I see no reason that players should be allowed to wear earbuds. How would you know if the person was receiving constant coaching via cell phone?
|26||June 22, 2021||Andrew|| |
Would have to consider players who are hard of hearing and wear hearing aids for legitimate reason.
|26||June 22, 2021||Don|| |
My hearing aids are also blue tooth and allow me to hear my phone ring and listen to the caller without anyone else hearing it. It will work at about 20 feet from the phone. You could try to force players to disable blue tooth, but if the phone is on the sideline, the person holding it could quickly enable blue tooth and then call the phone to talk to the player.
|27||June 25, 2021||Kevin|| |
I don't personally have a problem with the spin/chainsaw/zane/morgan serving. That said, it should be all or nothing. The other comment suggesting "some" spin be allowed brings judgement as to what is too much or how the spin was generated.
|27||June 20, 2021||Alan|| |
I think we need to look at removing the spin as an advantage in the serve in steps rather than trying to jump to little/no spin only. A good first step might be no aided spin allowed. This would eliminate spinning the ball off the paddle or off another body part. A server could still flick the ball in their hand to generate some spin, but this does not create as much of an advantage.
|27||June 11, 2021||Jordan|| |
Instead of "no spin" on serve, I think just outlawing creating spin with both hands would be sufficient.. In other words, one hand only for the toss, one hand to hit with the paddle..
I agree that outlawing the crazy amount of spin that can be accumulated with 2 hands is a good thing for the game long term..
|29||July 8, 2021||Don|| |
If the Ref waits until the ball is dead before calling a TF, then 2 scenarios can occur:
1. Player A (serving side) commits a TF event and opposing Player B hits the ball into the net. Player B loses the point, and Player A also loses a point so the score remains the same.
2. Player A (serving side) commits a TF event and Player B hits a winning shot. Player A loses the rally and Player A also loses a point for the TF.
|29||June 22, 2021||Andrew|| |
Just like to say I agree with this rule change! I can tell you in other sports with more mature rule books this is the case.
|31||June 20, 2021||Alan|| |
A referee can and should be able to stop play to issues a TW or TF. If a player hits a ball causing it to pop up for an easy overhead winner and the just throw there paddle towards the net, that would be an instance where a referee could stop play and issue the TW/TF. This could be looked at as the referee stopping play for a distraction also and then issuing the TW/TF. There are circumstances where stopping play and issuing a TW/TF do occur though, so I feel that taking that wording out would bring up more confusion.
|Rule Change ID||Submitted||From||Comment|