Displaying 1 - 27 of 27
Displaying 1 - 27 of 27
|Rule Change ID||Submitted||From||Comment|
|872||March 11, 2023||judy|| |
Right now the drop folks have a distinct advantage when applying spins as they have no rules to follow except the drop itself.
|872||March 12, 2023||HAROLD|| |
This seems to be an overly restrictive rule making the game less pleasurable. In all conditions of a game being played to win, anyone will be as creative as possible in order to get an advantage. That is the nature of fun competition. If a player has an amazingly good serve it is in the nature of games to improve your return or develop a style of returning the serve which negates an advantage the server is trying to get. Please don't punish the players just because they have improved their skills in the game.
|872||March 13, 2023||Elizabeth|| |
I strongly oppose such a rule change. I have played recreational pickleball for 8 years and the volley serve is by far the most popular serve used. I also play and referee in amateur tournaments, and have observed the same majority of serves being the volley serve.
|872||March 13, 2023||Todd|| |
There is no difference between the volley serve and drop serve that would prevent a player from learning how to hit the ball as an offensive stroke. When it comes to striking the ball, athletic players will be able to figure out how to use it as a weapon. If the volley serve is becoming closer to a forehand, it is an illegal serve because of the height, of the ball when striking it, or the paddle is above the wrist, which a referee with reasonable eyesight can plainly see. Changing this to make the drop serve the only legal serve will not stop the most athletic players from figuring out how to use it to their advantage. As the game gets more and more popular, we will begin to see more and more athletic players that can just use more pace, spin and keep the ball inside the baseline. My serve is mostly flat with a little topspin, but my serve is very low to the ground and on the upstroke. The pace of play in the game is evolving as shots are getting more and more aggressive, and as players learn to hit lower seemingly non-attackable balls more offensively. In a nutshell, making the drop serve the only legal serve will not make the game more fair. As a racquetball player for years, making low contact from a dropped ball can be a very nasty serve.
|872||March 14, 2023||Valinda|| |
Absolutely not, drop serves are fine for beginners but eventually all players need to learn the traditional serve. Its what makes Picklball different. Keep changing the rules and the original structure of the game and you as well.chamged the name too.
|872||March 14, 2023||Ed|| |
I don't see where this will solve a problem. If the bounce brings the ball back to where the volley serve would be hit, what have you 'solved'?
|872||March 14, 2023||Dayle|| |
I learned of this possible rule change at a referee session that I participate in - I am in training - and was taken aback. I can't imagine having to learn a new serve after years of playing using a volley serve. As a matter of fact, when I started playing there was no such thing as a drop serve. The vast majority of pickleball players are not pro nor even tournament players, although some do competitions such as leagues etc. For all of these people who use a volley serve, most I would guess, I think it would be very unfair to cause them to have to learn a new serve. This rule change seems to me to be totally unnecessary for the vast majority of pickleball players.
Thank you for your consideration!
|872||March 14, 2023||Larry|| |
This is a horrible idea. There are many many more recreational pickleball players than pros, and to change a rule to make officiating easier at the pro level to the detriment of all recreational players is, frankly, stupid.
|872||March 14, 2023||Stan|| |
Love the drop serve. As a player, it allows creativity and is easier to learn. As an instructor, it makes learning and developing the serving skills easier, increases the rate of successful serves, and instills confidence in the learner. As a referee, it is much more efficient to judge the non-legal attributes and enhances the flow of the game to benefit the players.
|872||March 14, 2023||Howard|| |
I agree with the proposed rule change. I play recreational pickleball at many venues on the west coast. So many times I see players make obvious illegal serves, but I stopped saying anything because I got tired of arguing the issue. As for the drop serve I’ve seen players toss the ball slightly upward or push the ball down as they release it. I suggest clearly defining the drop as holding the ball steady and then release without motion.
|872||March 16, 2023||Patrick|| |
NO - This is a terrible proposed rule change. Serves have an extremely low impact on the outcome of a match especially at higher levels of play. Very few points are won off serves and the vast majority are from unforced errors.
|872||March 17, 2023||David|| |
Do not eliminate the volley serve. For those of us who use it and have nearly perfected it to fit our game it will have a great impact. Simply have referees and/or official and monitors enforce the existing rules and make players correct anything that is remotely questionable with their serve.
The drop serve cannot be counted upon for consistency in bounce height due to ball manufacturer and construction, court surface and wind speed.
The volley serve is much more consistent and not influenced by ball construction and court surface.
Changing to a drop serve only will literally change the game for a vast number of players! Keep the volley serve!!
|872||March 17, 2023||Colton|| |
Good change. It would eliminate all the hassle about the volley serve, and the replays, in officiated matches, and the unfairness in unofficiated play, since the receiving team can't challenge in any meaningful way. Making it simpler and avoiding disputes about the let serve was behind the decision to eliminate the let serve, just play it if it is in.
|872||March 18, 2023||Roxanne|| |
volley serve should stay
|872||March 18, 2023||Margaret|| |
I favor this rule change.
|872||March 18, 2023||Gale|| |
I am opposed the the drop ball serve. Why change traditional players when they have been taught the traditional serve and not the drop ball serve. There are more traditional players than pro players. Changing the serve to a drop ball serve after you have been playing with the volley serve will take a long time and is unnecessary.
|872||March 19, 2023||Chic|| |
Totally agree & have said for a while that the drop serve should be mandatory.
|872||March 19, 2023||Michael|| |
Terrible suggested Rule Change! The Underhand Volley Serve is of the essence of the Game. Likewise, as with other Official Calls, the Benefit of the Doubt goes to the Opponent. What does this mean? If the Serve is questionable, then call a Fault!
And, as the sport evolves, the Serve could easily evolve in to an overhead serve, please refer to the links below...
Regarding Tyson McGuffin's and Lea Jansen's Serves... At times, both of their Serves are clearly Illegal, as they both do not hit the ball in a upward motion, and it appears that their serves are above the waist and that the paddle is above their wrists.
As the USA Pickleball rulebook states at Section 4.A.5
The Drop Serve (and the Overheas Server) are not where Pickleball needs to evolve...
|872||March 19, 2023||Peyton|| |
Please do not require drop serves. my standard serve is a very high arc lob serve which would be nearly impossible if I had to drop the ball onto the ground first. It is obvious to see if my type of serve is accomplished by hitting the ball either below or above my waist. If the volley serve s modified, please to not outlaw my type serve.
|872||March 19, 2023||Cathy|| |
I think this is a GREAT rule change and will level the playing field on serves.
|872||March 20, 2023||Kathy|| |
Personally, I like having a choice and I can control my volley serve better than my drop
|872||March 21, 2023||Leonard|| |
I disagree with the proposed rule requiring the drop serve as the only valid serve type. Most pickleball players serve the ball out of their hand, and this would require a significant change for the vast majority of players. Most players serve the ball out of their hand in a legal manner. It does not make sense for the sport to penalize the vast majority to accommodate the very few who serve illegally on occasion.
|872||March 21, 2023||Joseph|| |
Eliminate the drop serve from competitions to be consistent with pro competitions. Ok to teach beginners to get the serve in.
|872||March 21, 2023||Michael|| |
A drop server automatically places shorter players at a distinct disadvantages due to the laws of physics(3rd), which shorter players cant control. Basically shorter players cant drop the ball at the same height as taller players and will result in a much lower bounce off the playing surface than a much taller player will have.
|872||March 21, 2023||Sandy|| |
A big "NO". Rules that change the integrity of the game are not needed. The volley serve is part of the game, and has been used and taught for ages. The drop serve is good for beginners, or those experiencing the "yips", to have an option to the volley serve, but should not be the only serve used. As a player, instructor, and referee, I do not wish to see this rule implemented.
|872||March 22, 2023||kevin|| |
Very much in favor of this rule change, let's end all the rumors, insinuations about people not having legal serves, all that BS. Make it bounce serve only and then there is NO DOUBT.
Right now the most common comment when someone asks about a legal serve is to video and then freeze frame the video. It shouldn't require a freeze frame video to make a decision on whether a rule is broken.
|872||March 29, 2023||James|| |
At this point I think we have 2 choices. One would be to remove all restrictions on the serve. I say this because I see many questionable volley serves at the pro level. If the pros can't get it right, then there is little hope for the rest of us. The other choice is similar to the first, and that is to use the drop serve. It eliminates most issues because you only have to make sure the ball is dropped . One restriction - drop the ball - and then anything goes. I know there will still be some subjectivity around arm movements, but it would still be simpler to judge than the current volley (folly?) serve. It is also much easier to teach to new players, and easier for them to learn.
I am biased, because I use the drop serve exclusively. I can do quite a bit with it (forehand, backhand, spin, lob, drop, etc...), and I occasionally get some aces in. I think it is more than sufficient.
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