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 Rule Change ID Submitted From Comment
334May 28, 2022Ross

Agree, but not critical. For our club this is not an issue. If the comment that Referees are reluctant to call is really true, then I agree it should be a replay. Defer to our top referees on this one.

334June 10, 2022Tom

If I understand this correctly, if a referee or a player thinks he spots an illegal serve, a replay would be the call. I disagree with this for the following reasons:
1. It would slow the game - how many replays would be permitted? An unlimited amount?
2. The author is correct in that players could use this to their advantage. It would be easy - if he had trouble with the serve, he could simply use this as reason to have another chance.
3. Yes, sometimes referees are hesitant to call a serve illegal if it is borderline. There are ways to deal with it: For one, Have the head ref come take a look. Also, often times a player will say, "watch this guys serve - it's illegal." Then more times than not it turns out the serve is ok. This rule change I believe would make things worse, not better.

334June 30, 2022Marsha

Referees are trained to call a fault when a clear violation of the rules is observed and should have no hesitancy in doing so. The replay proposal eliminates faults for service motion violations. If any leniency in application of the service motion rules is to be considered, a compromise approach to encourage compliance with the service motion requirements would be to allow the referee to give a warning to a player upon the first observance of a volley serve that does not clearly meet the rules (borderline serve). Proposal:
• A warning shall be called by the referee for the first serve by a player that is judged to not clearly meet all the serve requirements. Thereafter, a fault shall be called by the referee for any serve by the player judged to not meet all the requirements.

334July 6, 2022Beth

Disagree with this proposed change. Although it may be true that referees give the benefit of the doubt when serves are borderline illegal, allowing a replay shouldn't change their call (if they didn't see a fault, they shouldn't call for a replay.)

The existing service rules should not be eliminated and a fault should be called when they are violated. Replays slow the game down.

334July 11, 2022Kevin

Perhaps a compromise would be as follows:

First violation is a replay.
Subsequent violations constitute a fault.

Often times a player has a service motion that is on the border line on nearly every serve. This is fairly common with the Paddle below the wrist rule. The paddle head may be higher than the wrist at setup or at the end of the serve but is legal at the point of impact. It can be very difficult to determine the exact relationship between the paddle head at the point of contact. As a general rule the players who utilize this type of serve are well aware that they are pushing the envelope and that at times their serve is illegal. Knowing that referees will not call the illegal serve unless it is obvious they will gain an unfair advantage.

The "first violation is a replay" will make it more likely than the fault is called and that if the call is wrong the penalty is less severe. It will serve as a "shot across the bow" to the player that his serve is being watched closely. In most cases the server will be able to keep his serve legal and there will be no need for further calls.

334July 27, 2022Tim

I disagree that a fault is too harsh of a penalty for attempting to cheat. Requiring that all serves be dropped (not tossed) and that the ball must bounce before being struck will eliminate this problem.

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