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 Rule Change ID Submitted From Comment
277April 9, 2022Darla

"Out" is a perfectly good word for partner communication. This is the epitome of the complaint we hear about trying to control the minutiae of the sport. It's up to the players to *stay in the game* until the ball is dead. Play until the rally really ends -- don't support a team stopping play because one partner used a perfectly good and descriptive word to tell the other partner not to touch the ball.

277May 22, 2022Mary Ann

Agree with Judy, Darla, Jared, James, Jim! Players need to learn to focus on the game and play the rally to the very end! If you tend to lose focus because you hear the word "out", that's on you. My MXD partner is Deaf and rarely verbalize but he can say the word "out", whereas "bounce it" or any other verbage is more difficult for me to understand. Also, I myself am hard of hearing and "OUT" is very easy to hear. When people make these sorts of rule changes, they need to keep in mind other players who might have hearing difficulties. USAPA, please make sure to keep in mind the Deaf community when changing or adding rules based on audible sounds and/or visual cues.

277May 10, 2022Jim

Bad idea. Current rule is fine

277June 25, 2022geoge

Bad idea. We've been saying "out" as communication BEFORE the bounce for many years and a wholesale change is both unnecessary and disruptive to many. It is the quickest, clearest way to say DONT HIT THAT BALL when time counts. Anything said before the bounce is communication. Simple.

277July 12, 2022Jerry

Calling the ball out is more of an issue to the team receiving the ball. It causes the receiving team to relax, and most likely not return the ball. On the other hand, the team that hit the ball to the receiving team should already to be on the defense for a return ball, therefore no harm, no foul.

277May 28, 2022Ross

I agree with the proposal. You use the word out to state that the ball was out of the court when it landed. To call it Out just before you hit it and then get a winner is not appropriate. Many of the comments seem to be responding as though you can never say the word Out. That is not what is being proposed. The rule change is simply to say that if you use the word out, you are in effect saying that the ball is OUT and can no longer be played. If you mistakenly say OUT, then you loose.

Tennis has this rule and it works very well. Many of our players come from Tennis.

277May 31, 2022DANIEL

I concur that this rule ought to be modified to exclude the word OUT being used as player communication.
Aside from the aforementioned, another prime example of when this situation becomes an issue is when a player makes a premature "out" call and then the ball lands in. When a player is clearly making a line call and directs his/her call toward their opponents and not his/her teammate, that player ought not be rescued from that incorrect call simply because of a "player communication" rule when that was obviously not the player's intention. If a player calls the ball out after the bounce and the ball is IN, that player's team forfeits the point. Why should a player be off the hook simply because he or she mis-timed the call? Two mistakes in one play.

277June 8, 2022tom

I disagree with this proposed change. Current wording is fine. I suppose words could be added saying that these (player communication) calls should be made while the ball is on your side of the court, not your opponents. But for the most part, as a referee, these are pretty easy calls to make.

277April 10, 2022Jared

I don't see a need for a rule change to remove a specific word from player communication. It's easy to tell whether someone is communicating to their partner that the ball appears to be going out when they call it before the ball bounces. I say it and hear others say it often without a problem.

277July 11, 2022Kevin

Leave it alone. Stay focused.

277April 21, 2022James

Many players including myself are already used to using the word out. This is only confusing to players that don't know the rules. Rules shouldn't be changed to accommodate players that don't know the rules. Thank you.

277July 14, 2022Tony

No need for a rule change.

277June 29, 2022DARIN

No no no no. Awful idea. It's just player communication. The rule about this type of thing is already properly written and it is working fine.

277April 9, 2022judy

Nope, nope, nope.
Player communication is allowed. OUT is a perfect one syllable direction to a partner. In addition, phonetically it is easy to form by the mouth and comes out nice and crisp!

277June 30, 2022DennisTPM

So if a player yells, "Ouch," play is going to stop because someone thought he said "Out"?

It's perfect the way it is. Before the bounce it's communication; after the bounce it's a line call. The people who stop playing because they heard "out" from their opponents probably also stop playing when they hear "out" from the next court.

277July 29, 2022Chuck

Solution without a problem. It is incumbent on the opposing team to stay ready to play, no matter what the conversation about the ball is by the attacking team.

277July 27, 2022Tim

This is an unnecessary rule change. Under the proposed scenario, saying "mp" could be equally confusing. Players simply need to learn that the ball is always in play until it lands and is called out.

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